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  • 18 October 2021 10:15 AM
    Reply # 11589287 on 8749726
    Cody H

    Hello!

    I was hoping that someone would be able to tell me whether my great-great grandmother's surname is Hungarian, Slovak or Rusyn. All that we were ever told is that side of the family is Hungarian. 

    While living in the US, she went by Elizabeth Draveczky and resided in Cleveland, OH.

    The oldest record of hers that I have been able to locate is the Greek Catholic Baptismal record  of her daughter Maria from 1878, which lists her maiden name as Erzsa Mochtyä. The baptism occurred in what is now the village of Porostov, Sobrance, Slovakia. 

    Elizabeth immigrated to the US in 1911 and listed on her last place of residence as Deregnyo, which is now Drahnov, Michalovce District, Kosice, Slovakia. She is listed as being Magyar. 

    Depending on the record, however, some subsequent records listed her as being Hungarian and some listed her as being Slovak. 

    To make things more confusing, her death certificate, witnessed by her son, lists her maiden name as Moztyak. 

    With her daughter being baptized in the Greek Catholic Church, I'm thinking that she was Rusyn. That theory might be supported by my DNA profile, which listed Hungary and the Podcarpackie Vovoidship region of extreme southeastern Poland as my ancestral hotspots. The Hungarian DNA, I believe, comes from her husband, Istvan Draveczky. 

    If anyone has any information about her surname, I would greatly appreciate it. This is the one line of my family for which I hit a brick wall. 


  • 05 August 2021 10:12 AM
    Reply # 10797215 on 8749726
    Petro Z

    Hi Nasstasia,

    Sorry for misspelling your first name! But it is how I always knew it and Google shows the same - second double 'ss' not the first. 

  • 05 August 2021 9:55 AM
    Reply # 10796903 on 8749726
    Petro Z

    Hi Nastassia,

    Thanks to Tom Peters right to the point finding it looks like your ancestors originating from (todays name) Нижні Синівці village, Чернівці province in Western Ukraine - small village of less than 1000 some 70km south of Chernivtsi, next to Porubne/Seret boarder crossing. It is a geographic  Bukovina and historically mostly Rusyn populated region. There're two small next Synivtsi villages: Lower and Upper. 

    RE your question about "czuk/chuk" family suffixes:

    Your last name rooted from Yarema(Jarema) male first name (EN: Jeremy). The [pronounsed: chook] suffix means "son-of" like Scandinavian "-sson".

    There're different spellings because of various legal authorities during centuries: Austrian, Polish, Romanian, and different ears of Canadian immigration officers (how they heard it then - so spelled it).

    Yaremchuk (Jaremchuk, Yaremchouck, Jaremczuk etc) are pretty common last name in Western Ukraine, some in Eastern Poland. Please google for Ukr singer Nazarij Yaremchuk. And my dear wife's maiden name is Yaremchuk, from Lviv (former Lemberg) vicinity.

  • 01 August 2021 8:13 AM
    Reply # 10787403 on 8749726

    Re: Yaremczuk

    I believe this is the baptism for your Theodor Jaremcziuk:

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSSC-NQ7Q-5?i=293&cat=1360168

    Bapt No. 44

    Born 26 July 1872

    Bapt 30 July 1872

    Child: Feodor

    Greek Catholic, male

    legitimate

    Father: Jakob Jaremcziuk, farmer in Szeroutz?

    Mother: Anna, dau of Michail Palamariuk and his wife Elena.

    Orthodox transcripts of Unterscheroutz, Bukowina, Austria, later Serautii-de-Jos, Romania now part of Chernivtsi, Ukraine.

    Records from 1784-1924 available to peruse.

    Tom Peters

  • 01 August 2021 1:49 AM
    Reply # 10787049 on 8749726
    These choices came up in Ancestry dropdown menu for BIRTH LOCATION IN (DNA) MATCHES' TREES:
    • Bukovina, Kralovehradecky, Czech Republic
    • Bukovina u Cisté, Liberecky, Czech Republic

    • Bukovina u Pecky, Kralovehradecky, Czech Republic

    • Bukovina, Ustecky, Czech Republic

    • Bukovina, Jihomoravsky, Czech Republic

    • Bukovina, Plzensky, Czech Republic

    • Bukovina, Liptovský Mikuláš, Zilinsky, Slovakia

    • Bukovina, Čadca, Zilinsky, Slovakia

    DNA matches to Ancestry member doing the search show up when they choose a specific geographical location.  Very nice feature.

    Both Czech Republic and Slovakia were part of Austria Hungary.

    Only Eastern Slovakia was associated with Galicia, along with Southeast Poland and Western Ukraine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Eastern_Europe).
  • 31 July 2021 2:06 PM
    Reply # 10786314 on 8749726
    Nasstasia Yaremczuk

    Hello Everyone!

    My father's family emigrated to Alberta, Canada early 20th c., and it shows on  immigration records variously  that they were "Bukovinian"; from Galicia, or Galician, and; Greek Catholic or Greek Orthodox. My grandfather, before he died, confirmed that his parents were from Bukovina. However, I am having a hard time finding  information on their surname. My great-grandfather and his family's name is on immigration records in various iterations: garemczyk (I think I also saw a garemche), jaremczyk; and eventually yaremczuk or yaremchuk, which is the name that stuck. I'm aware that immigration wrote down what they interpreted and that it can be difficult to know what the true name was. I know my grandfather grew up speaking either Ukrainian or Rusyn (it was his native tongue), and they were a very close-knit community. I believe my great-grandmother's family all immigrated to Pittsburgh as her name was Domka Demczuk or Demchuk (spelled in many different ways too on her family's records), and I've found a lot of records from Pittsburgh with her family name and what appears to be her parents and siblings. 

    There were many Ukrainians who immigrated to the Canadian prairies, and my guess is that my great grandparents just assimilated into the Ukrainian diaspora here (and that immigration authorities also considered them to just be of Ukrainian identity). However, the giveway to Rusyn identity to me seems to be that they themselves reported to be Bukovinian -not Ukrainian - when they entered Canada, as well as from Galacia, and not Ukrainian Orthodox. 

    How common is it that the "chuk", "czuk", or "cyk" suffix is added to Rusyn surnames? I have found some Rusyns online with the "chuk" suffix but it seems to be somewhat rare. Anyone have any thoughts?

    thanks so much! 

  • 29 July 2021 12:35 PM
    Reply # 10782414 on 8749726
    Petro Z

    Hi Mr Mularchyk,

    As Jaszans originating from Horodenka - it's Kolomya county, todays Ivano-Frankivsk, former Stanislawiw region. It is rather Hutsul than Rusyn region. Jaszan (polish transcription according to those times) is pronounced like Yashan.

  • 28 July 2021 9:53 PM
    Reply # 10781072 on 8749726
    Mularchyk

    Hi! I have made a post on here before about the last name Mularchyk, in which the replies helped a lot. I am now researching another name, Jaszan, in my tree. The line is said to come from the Horodenka region as well. Does this surname sound rusyn or does it seem like it is from somewhere else? Also how would you even pronounce it?

  • 08 May 2021 10:29 AM
    Reply # 10454779 on 9306043
    Mark Brown
    Linda wrote:Regarding the website http://transcarpathia-research.com/.  (Ukraine Genealogist). Has anyone used Maxim for research of their family history? 

    Hi Linda, I've used Maxim quite a bit. He found dozens of relatives in the old Greek Catholic church records in Ukraine, sent multiple photos of every page that had a family record, translated the records into English, and sent a Word document containing all the information. His prices were reasonable and he worked fairly quickly -- even during Covid. Just be sure to agree on a fixed price before work starts. He accepts payment via Western Union (or similar) wire services.

  • 03 May 2021 12:37 PM
    Reply # 10436937 on 8827218
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:

    UKRAINE GENEALOGIST WEBSITE: https://transcarpathia-research.com/.

    SLOVAK GENEALOGIST WEBSITE:  https://www.cisarik.com/

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    All four of my grandparents were born late 1800s in Austria Hungary.  Today, 3 of their birth locations are near Kosice and Humenne/Michalovce in Eastern Slovakia.  Fourth near Uzhhorod in Zakarpattya Oblast Western Ukraine.

    They settled near Uniontown in Fayette County PA (coal mines) and Monessen in Westmoreland County PA (steel mills).

    I've taken autosomal (non-gender), Y-DNA (paternal only), and mtDNA (maternal only) DNA tests.  Accuracy is 4 generations, 10 generations and 60+ generations, respectively.  DNA is VERY useful since my grandparents left few documents and records.  Also, many errors/confusion in remaining records.

    I am a member of Ancestry, My Heritage, GEDmatch.com, Family Tree, and FamilySearch.org.  Latter is run by LDS (Mormon Church).  Several hours each week LDS opens Family History Centers (FHC) to the public.  They allow access to their computers and many LDS genealogy subscriptions.  Staffers helpful.  If you visit, take a USB drive to download important findings.

    I belong to Polish Genealogy Society of America, Czechoslovakia Genealogy Society International, and several local genealogy organizations in the USA.

    I'm an avid researcher.  Willing to collaborate with DNA cousins, and others possibly connected to me by surname and/or geography.


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