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  • 31 December 2020 4:41 PM
    Reply # 9545188 on 8958597

    Many, many moons ago Greg  Kolojeski published an article from "The Orthodox Herald",   http://www.rusyn.com/crgiven.htm about Carpatho-Rusyn Given (first) Names.

    In summary it says:

    Sons are named, in birth order as:

    1. Father

    2. Father's Father

    3. Mother's Father

    4. Other sons named after other relatives

    Daughters are named, in birth order as:

    1. Maria

    2. Hanna

    3. Olena

    4. Other daughters named after other relatives

    This tradition was followed in my village of Zboj, Slovakia, from the 1700's until about 1914.


    In a related matter, in 1868, the Hungarian Nationalities Law dictated that minority languages were essentially banished from use in administrative and legal applications.   This explains by and large why place names are documented in Magyar ("Hungarian").

     Most of the "Magyarization" of personal names occurred only in the middle of Hungary, around Budapest.   In 1867, attempts were made to Magyarize Carpatho-Rusyn names and they pressed the churches to add western rite practices to the Greek Catholic liturgy and replace Church Slavonic with Magyar.   As you can see by the records they kept, our regions were slow to change, if ever, due to the remoteness of the region.


  • 30 December 2020 3:01 PM
    Reply # 9518413 on 8958597
    Sharon

    29 December 2020 1:51 PM

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    Reply # 9492351 on 8958597

    Karen

    I thought the order of female children was Maria, Anna, Olena.  What do others think?

     Hi Karen,

         I read that was the order of female naming as well on a website . Apparently, my family didn't follow that. I found an interesting site on Rusyn names on nameberry.com/userlist/view/79099. It has the beautiful  Rusyn names you rarely hear today unless you are doing research. Sharon

  • 29 December 2020 1:51 PM
    Reply # 9492351 on 8958597
    Karen

    I thought the order of female children was Maria, Anna, Olena.  What do others think?

  • 28 December 2020 6:09 PM
    Reply # 9471970 on 8958597
    Anonymous wrote:

    Hi,

     My family followed the traditional Rusyn naming order making for difficult research with common surnames. Yes, many Mihaly, Petro, Ivan, Vaszil , Nicholay and then the ladies Anna, Maria, Olena, Pohala,  But I found some first names that aren't familiar to me such as Jewka , Pal and Kuat. Anyone familiar with these names?

    Sharon

    Our regions were a mixing pot.   The names you cite I have often seen in the Glaicia (Poland) region.    Make sure you cite what year these names were given to the child.  Events at those times may have influenced.   

    Also go back to the church records for these people and see if those names were common in the village as a whole, or if they were exceptions.   

    There is a lot of history to unpeel here before you can draw a conclusion.  Did they migrate from another village?   Were they a majority or minority in the village?

    Bill

  • 27 December 2020 1:58 PM
    Reply # 9453251 on 8958597
    Patty

    Thanks for the insights into "Ochtina."  I really appreciate all your help.

  • 27 December 2020 1:16 PM
    Reply # 9453187 on 8958597
    Linda

    Thank you for that possible explanation

  • 27 December 2020 2:57 AM
    Reply # 9452709 on 8958597
    Petro Z

    My pleasure, Sharon! 

    What I can I can try answering-clarifying, if it's OK .

    Dear Member here in Reply # 8973379 mentioned their ancestors originating from Pryslip village in West-Ukrainian Carpathians. So my grandma Eva (Yevka), I've mentioned here, lived in Liakhovets, nowadays Liskovets village some 13 km (8 mls)  N-W from Pryslip. Same Volovyj (nowadays Mizhgirya) region.

    If you allow me I'd like to clarify Linda's question, please:  Polish Grzegorz name corresponds to Rusyn/Ukrainian Hryc [Hryts] or Hryhoriy/Grigoriy - Gregory in EN. Close for Harry would be one of these or Havrylo/Gavryil names. But these last two are rather like Gabriel.    


  • 26 December 2020 3:24 PM
    Reply # 9452370 on 8958597
    Linda

    My father's first name was Harry. Does anyone know what this name corresponds to with my  grandparents coming from small village in southeast Poland?  He was the first male son. His father's first name was Grzegorz and mother's father was Michal.

  • 26 December 2020 1:03 PM
    Reply # 9452223 on 8958597
    Sharon

    Reply to Petro Z.

      Thank you for info on my first name questions. Its very helpful.  

    Sharon

  • 26 December 2020 12:23 PM
    Reply # 9452169 on 8958597
    Petro Z

    Hi Sharon,

    Regarding other names, you listed:

    Pohala - looks like typo of proper Polania = Polina, Pavla,

    Jewka - is definitely Eva, or Ewa in PL. My grandma was called Evka (Yev-ka) in family and in village.

    Kuat - that's a tough one. But could be Kwat (Kwiat like pronounced Kquiat) from PL = blossom. Close to Kvitka Cisyk first name, i guess

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